S4·E24 Muni Long

Grammy-winning R&B singer Muni Long returns to talk about her new single "Delulu." Jennifer welcomes Amenemhet Ashenafi and his son, Nassor, from Charlotte, North Carolina, to discuss the video that went viral after their emotional college drop-off moment. As Amenemhet left Nassor at Western Carolina University, where he plays Division I football, he gifted him a king chess piece — a symbol of strength, protection, and legacy. The touching video, recorded by Nassor's mom, inspired millions and sparked a national conversation about positive Black fatherhood and emotional connection between fathers and sons.

Then, breast cancer survivors Anna Wassman from Huntington Beach, California, and Karen Skirvin from Lake Forest, California, share their story of survival and friendship.